What's Deleted On The iPhone Stays On The Email Server

Looks like we're not the only ones who are having problems deleting mail on the iPhone. Dynamic Solutions Group, EdH on Mac Forums, and others throughout the world wide webs are having problems.

Turns out that the mail client on the iPhone marks messages for deletion, yet never sends the purge command to actually delete the message. The end result is that when we delete a message on the iPhone, then later log into Outlook, the deleted message remains.

That's why we wrote Expunge (named after the IMAP command). It's a simply command line application that asks you for your mail server, username, and password and periodically purges deleted mail items on your behalf.

I'm sure Apple will release a fix for this bug soon. In the meantime, download the Expunge binary. If you'd like you can also have the C# 2.0 source code.

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This is a great utility and I have found it useful.

Since I run it on a laptop I need to enter the data each time I run it.

Is there a way to use a batch file (or something similar) so I do not have to enter the settings every time?

Steve Van Vlack

Shawn,

I'm trying to run your application but can't get it to connect. Here's the error I get. Any help will be very much appreciated.

Also, I’ve set it up to run from the command prompt so it can be scheduled. (I get the problem with both versions).

http://njt-tx.com/download/ExPunge.exe

Thanks,
Nick

Running...
Unhandled Exception: System.IO.IOException: Unable to write data to the transport connection: An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine. ---> System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: An established connection was
aborted by the software in your host machine
   at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.Send(Byte[] buffer, Int32 offset, Int32 size, SocketFlags socketFlags)
   at System.Net.Sockets.NetworkStream.Write(Byte[] buffer, Int32 offset, Int32 size)
   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
   at System.Net.Sockets.NetworkStream.Write(Byte[] buffer, Int32 offset, Int32 size)
   at FreshLogicStudios.Experiments.Expunge.Program.PurgeDeletedMessages(String server, String username, String password)
   at FreshLogicStudios.Experiments.Expunge.Program.Main(String[] args)

@Nick

Looking over your stack trace information my guess is that your mail server isn't allowing standard IMAP connections and forces you to use IMAP over SSL (which I think by default is port 993).

Since this was a quick and dirty app I didn't add SSL support, but Brooke Philpott from SQL Sentry, Inc. took the source and modified it. His version supports SSL along with a couple other security enhancements. I still need to merge his changes with mine... I hope to have another build out soon.

Expunge v1.1 contains code contributed by Brooke Philpott to allow SSL connections and provide better security of passwords stored in memory while the application is running.

Download the Expunge.exe binary | Dowload the C# source

Shawn,

Thanks for the applications, however I am having a little trouble with. When I run the SSL version I recieve a message stating that "SSL Certificate Validation Error - RemoteCertificateNameMismatch". I assume this is due to the fact that I do not have a bonifide ssl certificate from a signing authority. Is there a way to disable this check? Since, I have had the above problem, I resorted to using the original version of Expunge (no ssl support), which works fine, however the "Running..." message appears on the screen and the script never seems to exit. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Paul

I am having trouble running Expunge -- I get the pop-up window that says Expunge has encountered a problem and is required to close with the prompt to send the error message to Microsoft. Any ideas? It needs to run on my PC not the server, correct?

Marianne-

I get the same error when I try to run the EXE through my browser without downloading it to my hard drive first. Try saving the Expunge.exe to your desktop, then running the application.

This is a godsend for anyone who needs to manage their eMail on their iPhone and not have to do it all again on the server copy.

One question though... Is there a way of running the exe with command line parameters for the server, username and password? - a previous comment mentions running it as a scheduled task and I can't work it out! What would the syntax be?

Thanks

I have been having trouble getting the binary installed properly on Exchange Server 2003.

Can you tell me the command line options for the expunge.exe program?

I have modified the code quite a bit to include a few things that people have been wanting/had issues with.

NOTE: The way that I changed the code may make it less secure as the password would still probably be stored in memory due to the techniques I used. I personally think this is an acceptable risk as nobody has access to my server nor would they even know to look at it. But I do not take responsibility if your password somehow gets stolen.

I added command line parameters to the program while maintaining the same ability to type in the information.

I also added a command line parameter as well as a user input to change the amount of time between checks.

I also added a title change to the window to display "Expunge - <server name> (<username>)"

Basically the new command line syntax goes like this:

expunge.exe "server" "username" "password" "time"

There is documentation when you simply run the file without command line parameters.

If you do not enter enough parameters, it will fall back to the user input.

If you enter incorrect parameters, the program may crash! I am not going to build the code to check for these errors as the group of people that may use this is a very small group of people who probably have some idea of what they are doing.

this modified version started out as Shawn Miller's code he posted above.

primary download site:
source
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secondary download site:
source
executable only

I also forgot to mention that if you do enter the information by user input, it will show the password clear text. If you are going to use the program with the user input, I would highly suggest using the previous 1.1 version.

I also suggest for those who do not want to have the window open all the time that they install the latest version that I modified and create a service to automatically run in the background. Here are some instructions if you need them:

Download the Windows Server 2003 Resource Kit Tools (or whatever version you are running; just google it)
Copy instsrv.exe and srvany.exe to "%systemroot%\system32"
Install srvany.exe as a service by typing the following command in a command prompt:

"instsrv Expunge c:\windows\system32\srvany.exe"

Run "regedit" and nagivate to:

HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Expunge
Add a key and name is "Parameters" under "Expunge"
Add a string (REG_SZ) with the value "Application"
Assign the following value to "Application":

"c:\Program Files\Expunge\Expunge.exe" "server" "username" "password" "time" (if your path to Expunge is different, change it)

Open up Services "services.msc" and find "Expunge"

Go to "Log on" property and make sure that "System Account" is checked and "Allow service to interact with Desktop" is unchecked (should be by default)
Make sure the "Startup Type" is set to Automatic
Click "Start" to start the service.

This should get you a service that is always running in the background without having your window open. Let me know if anyone finds any errors.

Is this the correct Application setting, including the quotes, spaces and time setting?

"c:\Program Files\Expunge\Expunge.exe" "servername" "username" "password" "5"

Thanks

I have been dealing with this since the 1.1.2 release. I understand that the expunge utility is a fix, but I dont want to really "Delete" my mail. I simply want to move it out of my inbox. (I store all mail for archive.) If I try to MOVE a message in my exchange inbox, it COPIES it to the folder I specify.

Is it doing a Copy / Delete function?

Is there a way to delete email without it being expunged later so I can save it?

Thanks

Justin

Shawn, Many thanks for writing ExPunge. I had it working (briefly) but then it started generating the following error: "Running...SSL Certificate Validation Error! RemoteCertificateNameMismatch, RemoteCertificateChainErrors" I can't seem to find the original version wihch does not use SSL. I see there haven't been any posts on this forum in a long time, but I'm hopeful that you will be able to help. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks much in advance, Roger

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